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By Chris Stirewalt  |  Monday, October 19

By Chris Stirewalt

Monday, October 19

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Gallup-ing away from history 

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We know that President Trump doesn’t like pollsters, or at least not the ones that produce unfavorable results about him. But it is also true that polls don’t really like him either.

Right now, that means that each week, Trump is plumbing new depths of unpopularity as voters recoil from his personality and policies. Even low-quality pollsters with high degrees of pro-Trump lean in their past surveys show the president underwater with voters. When not even Rasmussen Reports can get him over 45 percent approval, you know Trump is in the soup. 

But it is also true that in each of his three presidential campaigns, the best national pollsters have significantly understated his share of the vote. In 2016, Trump won when everyone — including him — thought he would lose. In 2020, what was forecast to be a 10-point blowout for Joe Biden ended up being less than 5 points. And in 2024, the campaign closed with Trump trailing by less than 2 points, but he won the national popular vote by a point and a half.

The debate has raged over why, at a time when pollsters have had a good record in midterms and have been pretty much on the nose with the Democrats’ share of the presidential vote, Trump keeps beating expectations.

Republicans like the idea of the “shy” Trump voter, which is akin to another piece of favored right-wing lore: the Bradley Effect. This is the idea that voters who felt pressure to vote against the socially undesirable Trump, lied to pollsters rather than admit their preference. This is the “silent majority” in action.

Maybe there are instances of this taking place. Certainly the pro-Kamala Harris spot telling women to lie to their Republican husbands about voting for the then-vice president suggests this kind of thinking has a home in both parties. But a better explanation is that voters who favored Trump were just harder for pollsters to find. The largest bloc of Trump’s support in all of his elections came from white, working-class voters. We have lots of evidence to suggest that this is also one of the groups most unlikely to participate in surveys, some probably by choice or because of suspicion and others because they’re just too busy. By the time you’ve found enough of these voters to make up the 40 percent or so you need for a polling sample, you’ve scraped down to get an unrepresentative sample.

If only rabbits with bent ears like purple carrots, you won’t catch many straight-eared bunnies in a purple-carrot trap. 

One of the best pieces of evidence for the purple carrot theory of the missing Trump voter came from before Trump was ever on a ballot. The biggest polling miss in the modern era until 2020 was in 2012, when an average of high-quality polls showed incumbent Barack Obama ahead of Republican nominee Mitt Romney by 0.6 points at the end of the campaign. Obama went on to win the national popular vote by about 4 points. I doubt many of those “missing” voters were lying to pollsters to say they were voting for the white businessman instead of America’s first African American president. More likely was that Obama did the best among the voters who are the hardest to poll: working-class Americans.

The 2012 miss didn’t get nearly the attention as the Trump-era errors, which is understandable since it was a matter of degree, not outcome. The expected result — an Obama victory — occurred, so whether it was narrow or comfortable was just for style points. But the error still sent a jolt through the world of public opinion research.

One of those shook loose was the Gallup organization, which had been one of the only pollsters in the closing days of the 2012 campaign to show a lead — albeit a narrow 1-point advantage — for Romney. Gallup wasn’t any kind of a wild outlier. The difference between Gallup and contemporaneous polls was statistically insignificant. But it was obviously enough of an embarrassment that Gallup announced in 2015 that it would, for the first time since the 1940s, not release polls on the upcoming presidential election.

That decision made good business sense because while an election poll can be wrong, a poll for a corporate client really can’t be. You can draw the wrong conclusion from a small sample of respondents about how the electorate is going to vote, but not about how people feel about the new packaging on Post Toasties or what attributes are most important to consumers in purchasing a new vacuum cleaner. Except for in very extreme cases, market research is unfalsifiable. Measuring subjective preferences and attitudes is very different from trying to forecast an actual election that will be contested, tabulated and reported.

A horse race poll can be accurate without being predictive, which is to say that races change in the closing days and margins of error sometimes overlap. But getting it “wrong” makes the people who sell breakfast cereal and vacuum cleaners wonder if your high-priced consulting services are all they’re cracked up to be. So Gallup, the firm that had essentially created the polling industry as we know it when George Gallup started doing public polls in the mid-1930s, got out of the horse race. 

That was no great loss, since we have lots of good polling on presidential elections, much of it superior to Gallup’s offerings. But what Gallup kept was the jewel in its crown: its more than eight-decade long effort to track public opinion on presidential job performance … until this week. 

The company announced “an evolution in how Gallup focuses its public research and thought leadership” that would no longer include assessing presidential job approval, as it had for presidents going back to Franklin Roosevelt. It was not lost on anyone that this announcement followed Gallup giving Trump a scorchingly bad score for the final quarter of 2025. Some Democrats cried foul and suggested Trump had pressured the company to stop.

That’s not a crazy suggestion, given how heavy-handed Trump is with corporate entities that displease him. With lots of money and free legal services from friendly firms, Trump has a long record of harassing lawsuits like the one he filed against Iowa pollster Ann Selzer and the Des Moines Register. Targets often prefer to make a deal rather than endure the cost and trouble of endless litigation. 

But it is also possible that Gallup just wanted to get out of the business of doing politically problematic polls for public consumption. Like the horse-race decision of a decade ago, the presidential approval decision may have just been that juice wasn’t worth the squeeze anymore. 

Whatever the reason, it’s too bad. There are other pollsters that do better, more detailed public opinion research, but one thing you can’t buy is history. Gallup’s public service was that it provided stable, comparable data for 15 presidencies so we could reliably compare American voters’ attitudes at different times. 

That helped us put things in perspective and gave us a better sense of ourselves. It’s a shame that didn’t fit Gallup’s idea of “thought leadership” anymore.

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NUTRITIONAL INFORMATION

 

TRUMP JOB PERFORMANCE

Average Approval

39.6%

Average Disapproval

57.6%

Net Score: -18 points

Change from one week ago: ↓ 0.4 points (-17.6 points)

Change from one month ago:  ↑ 1 point ( -19 points)

[Average includes: AP/NORC 36 percent approve - 62 percent disapprove - Quinnipiac University 37 percent approve - 56 percent disapprove; Marist College 39 percent approve - 56 percent disapprove; Marquette University Law School 42 percent approve - 58 percent disapprove; Fox News 44 percent approve - 56 percent disapprove]

 

Trump favorability sinks below post-Jan. 6 depths  

Please indicate if you have an unfavorable or favorable impression of Donald Trump.

Now vs. January 2021 

Very/somewhat favorable: 34 percent; 36 percent

Very/somewhat unfavorable: 61 percent; 61 percent

[National Opinion Research Center survey of  1,156 adults.]

 

Texas Republican Senate primary (March 3)

Ken Paxton: 38 percent

John Cornyn: 31 percent

Wesley Hunt: 17 percent

Other/unsure: 14 percent

[University of Houston survey of 550 likely Republican primary voters]

 

Texas Democratic Senate primary (March 3)

Jasmine Crockett: 47 percent

James Talarico: 39 percent

Other/unsure: 12 percent

[University of Houston survey of 550 likely Democratic primary voters]

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ON THE SIDE

 

Inside 'The Fall of the House of Assad'

The Atlantic: “Some dictators go down fighting. Some are lynched and strung up for their victims to spit on. Some die in bed. Bashar al-Assad, who oversaw the torture and murder of hundreds of thousands of his fellow Syrians during a quarter century in power, may have achieved something new in the annals of tyranny. As the rebels closed in on Damascus on December 7, 2024, Assad reassured his aides and subordinates that victory was near, and then fled in the night on a Russian jet, telling almost no one. … Assad’s betrayal was so breathtakingly craven that some people had trouble believing it at first. When the facts became impossible to deny, the loyalty of thousands of people curdled almost instantly into fury. Many swore that they had always secretly hated him. There is an expression in Arabic for this kind of revisionist memory: When the cow falls, the butchers multiply.”

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PRIME CUTS

 

Shapiro-Fetterman feud carries consequences for 2028: The New York Times: “For years, [Pennsylvania’s Democratic Gov. Josh Shapiro] and [Democratic Sen. John Fetterman] climbed their way through the ranks of state politics, rising from local office on opposite sides of the state to become national political stars with egos to match. Both were talked about as potential presidential candidates despite their radically different profiles. Mr. Shapiro, a buttoned-up, bespectacled state legislator from the Philadelphia suburbs, emerged as a political moderate and a master of the insider’s game. Mr. Fetterman, the towering, tattooed mayor of a struggling old steel town near Pittsburgh, was a lone-wolf politician who disdained the party establishment but excited the liberal grass-roots. Yet in recent years, their trajectories have sharply diverged: … While private animosity is common between politicians, Mr. Fetterman has propelled their long-fraught relationship to the public eye, broadcasting his resentments toward a sitting governor of his own party in a way that Pennsylvania political veterans say has little modern precedent.”

 

Mark Leibovich: Do Democrats really want to win? The Atlantic: “[Democratic National Committee Chair Ken Martin] had been dealing with a staff revolt following his November 12 announcement that the DNC would be ending its generous work-from-home guidelines. Everyone would be expected to return to headquarters full-time, Martin told his staff, starting in February. This did not go over well. Thumbs-down emoji filled the Zoom screen. Employees pelted Martin with questions. He told me that he sympathized, but observed that most major public- and private-sector organizations had long since compelled their employees to return to their offices. ‘If it’s unbearable and it’s a quality-of-life thing for you, I’m happy to help you find another job,’ Martin said he told his staff. The complaints persisted. ‘Shocking’ and ‘callous,’ the DNC’s employee union said of the chairman’s directive in a statement to The New York Times. The squabble underscored how the Democrats can’t help but keep playing to a stubborn stereotype—a soft and pampered bunch, unwilling to make the gritty sacrifices (such as getting dressed) necessary to prevail in their ‘existential’ campaign to save democracy.”

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SHORT ORDER

GOP advantage over Dems on immigration drops to 4 points, a steep decline from autumn — The New York Times

Trump upbraids National Governors Association Chair Kevin Stitt for including Democrats — The Wall Street Journal

Republicans swamp Dems on midterm fundraising — The New York Times

Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) makes reelection bid official, and it won’t be easy — The Hill

Super Bowl ads kick California governor’s race into gear — The Sacramento Bee 

AIPAC sinks comeback bid for former Rep. Tom Malinowski (D-N.J.)  — Punchbowl News

 
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TABLE TALK

 

Article I, Article None

“We’ve gotten everything passed that we need for four years.” — President Trump in an interview with Fox Business declaring no additional legislative priorities for the remainder of his term. 

 
 

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“I wanted to add one more thing that I believe steers people with college educations towards the Democrats. If you grow up believing things about different demographics, and then you go to a university, you meet people from these demographics, and you realize that they aren't as scary as you were originally led to believe. I think this is a large reason for many people changing how they vote once they're going to a university or a college. It's not just being educated, it's meeting so many different types of people.” — Maygin Elizabeth-Ann McEwen-Eiferman, Tarzana, Calif.

Ms. McEwen-Eiferman,

I think that’s a positive way of looking at what a number of Republicans believe happens at America’s colleges, which is that sound, right-minded young people go off to be indoctrinated by radical professors and immersed in left-wing campus culture. A good bit of the current administration’s campaign against higher education is rooted in that belief that has been common on the American right since the campus revolts of the 1960s and 1970s.

The positive and negative versions of that story probably hold some truths. But I’m skeptical that the effects of a college education are as powerful as other factors. Fewer than a third of the enrollees at four-year colleges in America are first-generation college students. At elite institutions, the number might be as low as 6 percent. I don’t have a poll to back it up, but I would bet that the parents of college students and college-educated adults are also more Democratic than their non-college counterparts. 

Charles Murray’s masterful book, "Coming Apart," looks at how American society has fractured along lines between a broad, self-isolating elite and a culturally deteriorating underclass. Being a member of the correct party for your class is a big part of group identity. 

We Americans are an egalitarian bunch, and we don’t like to think about “class” the way Europeans do, but that doesn’t mean we don’t have the problem. Murray talks about college as a giant sorting machine that divides Americans into these two groups, with dire effects on our ability to work together to form a more perfect union. The resentments between the two groups is in its starkest relief in our crummy political discourse. Let’s hope we can do better.

All the best,

c

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FOR DESSERT

 

Hose off, you hosers

DurhamRegion: “Something smells rotten in the bowels of the Tribute Community Centre these days. If you said the Oshawa [Canada] Generals hockey team, well, you might not be wrong. The club, with just 27 points in 50 games, is last in the Ontario Hockey League. But, no, it appears some of the fans stink, too. That comes straight from a memo sent from Jason Hickman, the Generals’ longtime director of ticket sales and service. In a memo sent out to season ticket holders, Hickman advised fans, among other things, to ‘please shower before attending the game.’ He said to do this especially if you ‘went to the gym or did something that produced body odour.’ …  There are also references to 'personal hygiene stations, hand-sanitizing locations, cover coughs and sneezes and be mindful of personal cleanliness while sharing our space with fellow fans.'”

 
 

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Chris Stirewalt is political editor for The Hill and NewsNation, the host of "The Hill Sunday" on NewsNation and The CW, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and the author of books on politics and the media.

 
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